SaveMe Is Not The Topic???

Vrelder: We cry from morning to late night over LEA:((

PatriciaAnne Daviau: ahhhh it will be ok… there are a ton of other places out there

Daark Gothly: So no more art instillations?

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Not through the LEA as it is now. I think LEA needs to be reorg’d and a fresh new program emerge.

Josef K : It shouldn’t be that hard to keep LEA running as the current LEA Committee has no jurisdiction to shut LEA down.

According to the LEA Bylaws there must be at least 7 members in the LEA Committee:

– 4.1.1 There will be a maximum of eleven (11) and a minimum of seven (7) Committee Members once the number goes below seven (7) elections will take place.

However, for more than 2 year by now there has been less than the required 7 members in the LEA Committee. In spite of that the LEA Committee keeps making decisions that effects the art scene and the art community in Second Life.

And there is also a problem with several members of the LEA Committee.

According to the LEA Bylaws the term for a Committee member is 2 years. And a Committe member may serve up to 2 terms:

– 5.1.5 Term for Committee Members shall be 2 years (commencing with the ratification of these bylaws).

– 5.1.6 Committee Members may serve up to 2 terms.

However, 3 members of the LEA Committee have by far exceeded that condition. One

Committee member has had a seat for more than 8 continuously years by now.

Hence, every decision the LEA Committee has made for the last many years have been a violation of the LEA Bylaws as the committee itself is illegal according to their own Bylaws.

The current LEA Committee just have to step down and let a new committee take over in order to keep LEA alive.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: oh good grief Josef… give it a rest… those bylaws were changed years ago

Josef K: PatriciaAnne … you and the rest of the LEA Committee fucked LEA up, and now you are trying to save your butts by closing LEA down, Just leave the Committee and let a new take over

Vrelder: you have made a great job Patricia:)))

Vihmakass: i think Patricia was the only one who actually worked

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Josef we never did any such thing… all we tried to do is support the arts in SL with grants that were given to us by LL

Josef K: How come you didn’t elect new members when the old members left LEA

PatriciaAnne Daviau: why didn’t you come to us and offer your services?

Josef K: I did that 4 years ago and got ejected from your Facebook page and my questions to the committee got neglected

PatriciaAnne Daviau: we thought by stepping down a new and improved LEA would rise. With all the animosity held against the old …a complete revamp was needed

Tansee: Riannah and I I have an announcement to make later tonight

PatriciaAnne Daviau: be part of the solution instead of bitching about the past

Josef K: The current LEA Committee treated LEA as their own property without regards for the art. That’s what killed LEA.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: oh that is such total crap Josef

1Earthling Rang: No matter who is on the committee there will always be those who disagree with their decisions and even some who will abuse them over those decisions.

Josef K : It’s the truth Patricia. Look how few members you are now. You wouldn’t let new forces into the committee

1Earthling Rang: we all see things differently and if you cannot be reasonable in how you say your views there is no place for you

PatriciaAnne Daviau: that’s crap too Josef. we asked several to join but they didn’t want to give up the right to have grants by joining

Vrelder: it’s what i said, the LEA was attacked

Josef K: You and the other committee members killed LEA. And that will forever be your legacy

JMB Balogh: For quite a while it was obvious to the Committee that the LEA program as such was slowly dying. Applications for grants were way down and there were complaints that LEA had become boring and predictable. The committee had shrunk in numbers and giving up the right to apply for a grant made becoming a member a non starter for many good people. We spend months discussing it amongst ourselves and in meetings with LL. We concluded that it was not fixable within the current framework and that the only way forward was to step down and let a new group of people with NEW INNOVATIVE IDEAS take it forward. Basically for LEA version II to be started from scratch again, just as it was in 2010. So that’s what we did. We stepped down and left it with LL. I’m sure that LL would be happy to provide the regions again if some of you can come up with a solid proposal for promoting the Arts in Second Life and be willing to run it because it is takes work, a lot of work, trust me on that. It’s a labour of love because it is not paid work. In those years since 2010 Art in SL has changed dramatically and will continue to do so. ” read and digest

PatriciaAnne Daviau: I don’t buy that for one minute that my legacy is that I ran it into the ground… so say what you want…I am very proud of the work I did with and for LEA

Josef K : What work? The LEA Committee turned LEA into a Freemasonry. Everything happened behinds closed doors. A little transparency might have done the job – just like I suggested 4 years ago.

Vrelder: Josef what do you participate with? Did you then discus this matter in this group?

Josef K: I have actually suggested names for a new Committee to Tansee who is trying to save LEA

Vrelder: you mean SaveMe Oh then?

Josef K: No actually not

Mario2 Helstein: LEA has been an incredible site, it hurts that it comes to an end, the committee has always been excellent, it is difficult to be perfect for critics, but it will be difficult to do something similar again these days.

Static Melody: there must be some more to this story

Vrelder: yes SaveMe Oh, I think who have done this for several event’s in LEA and attacked this LEA Committee member many times at SaveMe Oh sites

Josef K: A very special LEA Committee member (Solo Mornington didn’t like SaveMe … so he even used me and my party to get to her. Not very flattering for someone in the LEA Committee

Vrelder: yes at it is allowed to destroy for many builders in LEA, just for the art of bullying? but not at your place? ou support SaveMe Oh s kind of art?

Josef K: He was mad at SaveMe and used me to get to her, that is an unforgivable action

Vrelder: yes then you should know how many have been angry and sad at LEA wit SMO showing up

Josef K: SaveMe has been banned from LEA for years

Vrelder: Yes otherwise LEA have been closed many years ago and she need to be Banned even for the next Linden Endowment: otherwise it will not live for long

Josef K: But why discuss SaveMe when it’s LEA and the way the LEA Committee runs it that is the question

Tansee: we will be having an all new committee and there are some new people that already have reached out to me to put their names in

Josef K: I wish I had the time to help more, Tansee. But I am already since 11 years a board member in the association for rhythmic music in my hometown. An association where I have to justify in front of the annual general meeting why I should be elected for a new term. That’s the kind of democracy that lacked in the old LEA Committee.

Vrelder: who would you think wanted be a member of LEA comity when it was under attack by SaveMe Oh and her followers, maybe his followers then, you Josef?

Josef K): As I said before … SaveMe is not the topic now and she has been banned for years so problem solved

Vrelder: Yes she is a topic, it’s not you who decide what topic is needed here

Josef K: Well, the thread started (not by me) about the shut down of LEA … so it kind of is the topic … not SaveMe

Tansee: I have a topic: The Save LEA group!

Save Lea. What’s in a name?

3 thoughts on “SaveMe Is Not The Topic???

  1. Reblogged this on Magick Thoughts SL ❤ Le meilleur de Second Life and commented:
    The only way Saveme could be the topic of discussion is if she weren’t banned from all LEA sims. The only place she is the topic is on her own site. When and if LEA reamerges with a new committee I am certain that Saveme will STILL be banned…. she has earned this honor with great gusto. But one place she will always perform is on her own blog and vlog sites with her own machinima … there isn’t much to be desired there but it’s all her just like she likes it.

    This is my last reference to her… from here on out you are all on your own. LOL. How we treat people in SL is very important especially if you are an artist or performer. You just never know who you are speaking to behind the avatar do you? It could be the Queen or a famous person or a family member. The other avatar could be anyone and I mean anyone…. Learning this lesson is hard for some people and many need practice on how they treat and speak to others.

    Make SL how you want it. Treat others with respect as well.

  2. That awesome (for the most part) LEA round which contained City Inside Out in 2015 was a major contributor to my joining SL when I read an Atlas Obscura article featuring CIO and other fantastic sims around SL. I followed each new round of LEA religiously with great consternation as the quality of art installations progressively dwindled. This makes no sense as I look around and see amazing new mesh artists entering SL all the time. I know there are some bad actors involved somewhere. I just figured it was LL’s continued lack of interest in maintaining SL to a standard of excellence. I didn’t realize it was committee politics.

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