The Linden Department Of Public Works And The Moleshow

While the corrupt LEA committee seeks the emergency exit by also closing the groupchat so the truth can remain a secret, Jayjay Zifanwe, JMB Balogh, LaPiscean Liberty and PatriciaAnne Daviau could consider to change into moles, the new secret LL army. As they are already experts in the field of corruption, working in the dark, dealing in secret and abuse their own created rules they would do perfect in the Linden Department of Public Works, the LDPW. The place to be for the ones really want to Licking Every A$$

Read here the group description and see the magical member list.

The LDPW will organise teams of resident builders, artists and scripters to create new content for use by Linden Lab, and for the SL community. Resident builders (“moles”) will be provided with specific build projects and will oversee progress before taking ownership of the content once work is completed.

SaveMe Is Not The Topic???

Vrelder: We cry from morning to late night over LEA:((

PatriciaAnne Daviau: ahhhh it will be ok… there are a ton of other places out there

Daark Gothly: So no more art instillations?

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Not through the LEA as it is now. I think LEA needs to be reorg’d and a fresh new program emerge.

Josef K : It shouldn’t be that hard to keep LEA running as the current LEA Committee has no jurisdiction to shut LEA down.

According to the LEA Bylaws there must be at least 7 members in the LEA Committee:

– 4.1.1 There will be a maximum of eleven (11) and a minimum of seven (7) Committee Members once the number goes below seven (7) elections will take place.

However, for more than 2 year by now there has been less than the required 7 members in the LEA Committee. In spite of that the LEA Committee keeps making decisions that effects the art scene and the art community in Second Life.

And there is also a problem with several members of the LEA Committee.

According to the LEA Bylaws the term for a Committee member is 2 years. And a Committe member may serve up to 2 terms:

– 5.1.5 Term for Committee Members shall be 2 years (commencing with the ratification of these bylaws).

– 5.1.6 Committee Members may serve up to 2 terms.

However, 3 members of the LEA Committee have by far exceeded that condition. One

Committee member has had a seat for more than 8 continuously years by now.

Hence, every decision the LEA Committee has made for the last many years have been a violation of the LEA Bylaws as the committee itself is illegal according to their own Bylaws.

The current LEA Committee just have to step down and let a new committee take over in order to keep LEA alive.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: oh good grief Josef… give it a rest… those bylaws were changed years ago

Josef K: PatriciaAnne … you and the rest of the LEA Committee fucked LEA up, and now you are trying to save your butts by closing LEA down, Just leave the Committee and let a new take over

Vrelder: you have made a great job Patricia:)))

Vihmakass: i think Patricia was the only one who actually worked

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Josef we never did any such thing… all we tried to do is support the arts in SL with grants that were given to us by LL

Josef K: How come you didn’t elect new members when the old members left LEA

PatriciaAnne Daviau: why didn’t you come to us and offer your services?

Josef K: I did that 4 years ago and got ejected from your Facebook page and my questions to the committee got neglected

PatriciaAnne Daviau: we thought by stepping down a new and improved LEA would rise. With all the animosity held against the old …a complete revamp was needed

Tansee: Riannah and I I have an announcement to make later tonight

PatriciaAnne Daviau: be part of the solution instead of bitching about the past

Josef K: The current LEA Committee treated LEA as their own property without regards for the art. That’s what killed LEA.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: oh that is such total crap Josef

1Earthling Rang: No matter who is on the committee there will always be those who disagree with their decisions and even some who will abuse them over those decisions.

Josef K : It’s the truth Patricia. Look how few members you are now. You wouldn’t let new forces into the committee

1Earthling Rang: we all see things differently and if you cannot be reasonable in how you say your views there is no place for you

PatriciaAnne Daviau: that’s crap too Josef. we asked several to join but they didn’t want to give up the right to have grants by joining

Vrelder: it’s what i said, the LEA was attacked

Josef K: You and the other committee members killed LEA. And that will forever be your legacy

JMB Balogh: For quite a while it was obvious to the Committee that the LEA program as such was slowly dying. Applications for grants were way down and there were complaints that LEA had become boring and predictable. The committee had shrunk in numbers and giving up the right to apply for a grant made becoming a member a non starter for many good people. We spend months discussing it amongst ourselves and in meetings with LL. We concluded that it was not fixable within the current framework and that the only way forward was to step down and let a new group of people with NEW INNOVATIVE IDEAS take it forward. Basically for LEA version II to be started from scratch again, just as it was in 2010. So that’s what we did. We stepped down and left it with LL. I’m sure that LL would be happy to provide the regions again if some of you can come up with a solid proposal for promoting the Arts in Second Life and be willing to run it because it is takes work, a lot of work, trust me on that. It’s a labour of love because it is not paid work. In those years since 2010 Art in SL has changed dramatically and will continue to do so. ” read and digest

PatriciaAnne Daviau: I don’t buy that for one minute that my legacy is that I ran it into the ground… so say what you want…I am very proud of the work I did with and for LEA

Josef K : What work? The LEA Committee turned LEA into a Freemasonry. Everything happened behinds closed doors. A little transparency might have done the job – just like I suggested 4 years ago.

Vrelder: Josef what do you participate with? Did you then discus this matter in this group?

Josef K: I have actually suggested names for a new Committee to Tansee who is trying to save LEA

Vrelder: you mean SaveMe Oh then?

Josef K: No actually not

Mario2 Helstein: LEA has been an incredible site, it hurts that it comes to an end, the committee has always been excellent, it is difficult to be perfect for critics, but it will be difficult to do something similar again these days.

Static Melody: there must be some more to this story

Vrelder: yes SaveMe Oh, I think who have done this for several event’s in LEA and attacked this LEA Committee member many times at SaveMe Oh sites

Josef K: A very special LEA Committee member (Solo Mornington didn’t like SaveMe … so he even used me and my party to get to her. Not very flattering for someone in the LEA Committee

Vrelder: yes at it is allowed to destroy for many builders in LEA, just for the art of bullying? but not at your place? ou support SaveMe Oh s kind of art?

Josef K: He was mad at SaveMe and used me to get to her, that is an unforgivable action

Vrelder: yes then you should know how many have been angry and sad at LEA wit SMO showing up

Josef K: SaveMe has been banned from LEA for years

Vrelder: Yes otherwise LEA have been closed many years ago and she need to be Banned even for the next Linden Endowment: otherwise it will not live for long

Josef K: But why discuss SaveMe when it’s LEA and the way the LEA Committee runs it that is the question

Tansee: we will be having an all new committee and there are some new people that already have reached out to me to put their names in

Josef K: I wish I had the time to help more, Tansee. But I am already since 11 years a board member in the association for rhythmic music in my hometown. An association where I have to justify in front of the annual general meeting why I should be elected for a new term. That’s the kind of democracy that lacked in the old LEA Committee.

Vrelder: who would you think wanted be a member of LEA comity when it was under attack by SaveMe Oh and her followers, maybe his followers then, you Josef?

Josef K): As I said before … SaveMe is not the topic now and she has been banned for years so problem solved

Vrelder: Yes she is a topic, it’s not you who decide what topic is needed here

Josef K: Well, the thread started (not by me) about the shut down of LEA … so it kind of is the topic … not SaveMe

Tansee: I have a topic: The Save LEA group!

Save Lea. What’s in a name?

Non Artists Took Over, SaveMe Is The DADA

Mandel Solano

Mandel Solano: I heard LEA will soon be closed, by Linden Lab

Blackbox Blindside: yes, I read it here too: https://savemeoh.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/declaration-regarding-the-defeat-of-lea-and-the-assumption-of-supreme-authority-by-saveme-oh/

Mandel Solano: they have already closed 2/3 of LEA

Blackbox Blindside: End of august its gone

Mandel Solano: no it’s the idiot SaveMe Oh

Jaicya Albright: this blog are misleading us this person wrote whatever she wants

Mandel Solano: Do not ever read something from SaveMe Oh and think all the text is true

Blackbox Blindside: why the committee decide to drown the place? Seems a lost opportunity not to ask the members. Although they never asked much of the members. They didnt ask me if I agree with this shut down

I think this should be a group decission, not by some committee members. Strange construction anyway.

Josef K: The LEA Committee violated the Bylaws on several occasions. According to the Bylaws committee members could serve two terms. Most of the committee forgot to leave after they served the two terms. Several exceeded that by several years. The Committee members treated LEA as their private property. I guess that lack of respect for the LEA Bylaws ended LEA.

Blackbox Blindside: Even ex members are on guard. I spotted Solo Mornington the other day, what a coincidence. They should have had election every 2 years

Josef K: Yes they should, but they didn’t

Blackbox Blindside: And now they pull out the plug for everyone using the sandbox

Josef K: All empires run by dictators are doomed to die … so also LEA

Blackbox Blindside: If it was not SaveMe Oh they would be in office for eternity. Pity she didn’t save LEA itself. In LEA 5 there is a new group who wants to save LEA, maybe join that

Mandel Solano: Many have used LEA 5 as a common sandbox, put out things not art at all and not deleted their unpacking things:) We all need to write to LL about this, but work as a admin on LEA is almost a full time job, I think there are rules

Dancoyote Antonelli: Rules about no littering, no adverts, no sales but with no team to enforce them, the rules are moot

Blackbox Blindside: Weren’t you once in the committee? DanCoyote?

Dancoyote Antonelli

Dancoyote Antonelli: Yes I was one of the original members with Bryn, Werner, Dekka and others.

Blackbox Blindside: So what would you advise? Were you elected in those days?

Dancoyote Antonelli: I was appointed by LL

Blackbox Blindside: How they found you?And on what terms?

Dancoyote Antonelli: I was a little famous back then

Blackbox Blindside: And why they kicked you out?

Dancoyote Antonelli: I retired, it is hard work and I did my time. 4 years is long enough to work for free.

Blackbox Blindside: according to the bylaws you can only stay 2 years

Josef K: 5.1.5 Term for Committee Members shall be 2 years (commencing with the ratification of these bylaws).

5.1.6 Committee Members may serve up to 2 terms.

Dancoyote Antonelli: I helped make the bylaws

Blackbox Blindside: He took 4 years to make them

Dancoyote Antonelli: yes!

Blackbox Blindside: Very smart

Dancoyote Antonelli: We added them as we discovered a need and THAT was a vote

Blackbox Blindside: And why it went wrong after?

Dancoyote Antonelli: Non artists took over

Mandel Solano: I think the comity is tired of LEA

Blackbox Blindside: Can you name a few non-artists?

Dancoyote Antonelli: I am not naming any names, not looking back, look forward: and step up and help, join the group, and join the conversation

Blackbox Blindside: Not any artist in the committee now?

Dancoyote Antonelli: The committee right now has quit

Josef K: LEA was a great idea once. But in the later years the Committee acted as if there was no Bylaws. No new members was elected and the remaining members didn’t leave after they served 2 terms. There was a huge lack of democracy in LEA.

Dancoyote Antonelli: after long service with little reward and respect. I don’t blame them. As I said it is hard work. Pattie, Joanna etc. are good people. Dedicated and sincere, honest

Mandel Solano: And all the attacks by SaveMe Oh have been tiresome

Blackbox Blindside: When you cant do the job you can retire, as you said…

Dancoyote Antonelli: SaveMe Oh does not matter

Blackbox Blindside: She is banned for years, that cannot be the problem

Mandel Solano: And now people who have not built things themselves put out SaveMe Oh things here.

Blackbox Blindside: You can even kiss SaveMe Oh, Mandel, there is a kissing booth

Mandel Solano: Are you one of his many alts?

Blackbox Blindside: I thought you were her alt

Dusty Canning: SaveMe Oh is nothing but a shit-stirrer with no talent and she should be totally ignored. Making trouble is all she is good at – please ignore her!

Dancoyote Antonelli: yeps. Let’s start right away

Blackbox Blindside: You have to admit she is only one able to stir things up, not bad in arts. I am a fan, please don’t kill me.

Jaicya Albright: what! Blackbox can’t you forget her. it seems she’s most important to you. you must be the alt then

Blackbox Blindside: In love with myself???? no!

Josef K: I am a SaveMe Oh fan too. I have worked with her on several occasions back when I had a gallery. And stirring up is what art must do. If not it’s just kitsch.

Mandel Solano: it’s not art to bully other people in SL

Blackbox Blindside: There is a difference to tell the truth and bully. And can’t we all mute people?

Josef K: Well, that’s what the DADA movement did in the beginning of last century. And DADA is the mother of all good art today. SaveMe is the DADA of our time

Blackbox Blindside: Josef be careful, before you know its on her blog, stirring more shit

Josef K: Hahaha … I love reading her blog. It always makes me laugh. It’s like reading The Emperor’s New Clothes by Hans Christian Andersen. SaveMe reveals all the bogus in the SL art world

Blackbox Blindside: Maybe they should ask her as LEA’s next bullshit detector!

Josef K: What a great idea

Epilogue:

Mandel Solano: What sort of art are you making, yourself?

Blackbox Blindside: None, I am just an art lover

Mandel Solano: But then you should not put art from others at LEA5. Put it up on your own land.

Blackbox Blindside: When artists are banned we should show their work, especially when in a corrupt regime like here

Mandel Solano: and I think you do not understand the struggle to make art, as you do not make art

Blackbox Blindside: I dont have to understand the struggle, I am just an art lover

Mandel Solano: No you are not. You do not even know who SaveMe Oh is

Blackbox Blindside: Yes I do as I bought her work, I love it.

Mandel Solano: It does not make you an art lover, it just make you a spokesman for him.

Blackbox Blindside: Him?

Mandel Solano: I said you do not know who he is!

Blackbox Blindside: She is so cute, don’t tell me its a him

Mandel Solano: and what he have done

Blackbox Blindside: Mandel, please don’t destroy my wet dream

Mandel Solano: He dislike woman especially, it’s why he make a female avatar

Blackbox Blindside: I thought that was the objective of SL

Mandel Solano: To falsify everything?

Blackbox Blindside: Be whatever you want, didn’t know it was a crime. You also tell that to the rabbits and tinies? For me she remains a woman, very sexy

Mandel Solano: Bullying is very bad manner

Blackbox Blindside: Oops, I better don’t say sexy before I get a #metoo

Mandel Solano: go then fuck him but not here

Blackbox Blindside: Now that is very rude Mandel

Trolled To Death?

Thoughts at a dying SIM

Sniper Siemens: Keep your avatar safe. SL could be very dangerous

Maan Nacht: LEA would love to have snitch snipers like you, that’s why they close. Not because art lovers, but power freaks like the snipers of this world

Sniper Siemens: Lol… You don’t know LEA and you don’t know anything about me. Resign yourself … you have not won anything.. -)

Maan Nacht: Ask LEA, CARP, PIRATS etc. if SaveMe Oh hasn’t won anything

Sniper Siemens: lol…. you are almost comical

Maan Nacht: Not being comic is a thing that killed LEA too, they had no sense of humor and took the desperate prim gluers so serious

Peet Auer: lol Maan ^^ .. SaveMe? can you say what you want … she does not listen everthing. All are bad and many more xxD … all the world are bad xxD

Wrennoir Cerise: Speaking from my own experience: I never ever EVER knew anyone on the LEA committee but was awarded a sim and did an exhibit for 3 months. I didn’t have much contact with the committee other than submitting my application and being accepted. I thought it was wonderful that Linden Labs has sims set aside for artists to exhibit for free. Not sure what the post is all about, though, as it was a bit tongue-in-cheek. Will there still be sims available for artists? If not, that is a real loss to the community. Maybe what needed to change was the committee structure if it was not good as it stood

Sniper Siemens: LEA is part of a cycle. Every cycle begins and ends but I see that fools remain forever … maybe …

Maan Nacht: If a committee’s only business is bans, regulation and exclusion, art is not served.

Wrennoir Cerise: but have the sims been pulled by Linden Labs then? Would not a more reasonable way to handle things be to view the committee and possibly elect a new one that is not elected for life?

Peet Auer: It’s about the rules of LL and if you do not keep it, you have a problem.

Sniper Siemens: Disturbing people is not art. that’s rudeness and bullying. This is what you SaveMe does.

Maan Nacht: Only the ones licking the ass of the committee are rewarded, artwhores.

Wrennoir Cerise: Okay, looks like people just want to gripe a bit 🙂

Peet Auer: You’re right. I know the lady and she provokes only. Something is not art!

Wyzard Merlin: haha ^^ and yeah once again one bigot takes out a great program and 20 sims bravo, stands and claps. long live the SL \m/

Maan Nacht: Peet, you are a loved licker

Wrennoir Cerise: This is what I am asking.. are the sims gone then? Isn’t that a bit like ‘throwing out the baby with the bath water” mentality? Seems a bit over the top dramatic

Maan Nacht: They are wiped out

Peet Auer: I like your neutral work … but not when it comes to insults and you hurt the TOS of LL! That’s not okay !!!!! Thats not art !!!

Sniper Siemens: She’s just a poor girl … lol

Eifachfilm Vacirca: Peet please tell me the ultimate definition of art

Peet Auer: There is not any! But insults of all kinds are not included !!!

Maan Nacht: Peet doesn’t know anything about art, he just opens up a window and let it pour. No matter what is on offer as long he scores viewers its ok

Eifachfilm Vacirca: Ok so you say this is not art? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offending_the_Audience

Wrennoir Cerise: Who is insulting? And isn’t it a loss that now we don’t have sims? Really, shouldn’t the committee have been the only one to remove if that was the issue? Do you think it will be easy to get 20 free full sims back?

Maan Nacht: The committee should have been removed a long time ago, you are right. They were completely incompetent, They had the curator disease. People who find themselves more important than the artist

Wrennoir Cerise: Is there only one other person here who thinks getting rid of the sims was not over the top???!!

Eifachfilm Vacirca: Wren there are plenty of boring sims in SL owned by good people who love to see art on it. You could try to be nice and social

Maan Nacht: And refuse to have snipers also helps

Wrennoir Cerise: I get that Eif, but then you are relying on asking people and not having a cohesive system, no? (were you suggesting I try to be nice and social? Sorry, wasn’t sure)

Lorin Tone: I was unaware of this, so LEA is no more?

Eifachfilm Vacirca: Yes i like this way of doing art, adding to existing instead of claiming a whole sim. I think collaboration is key in SL less ego mania is healthy. and to decorate a whole sim is just full on ego meme

Lorin Tone: Well, I certainly enjoyed many collaborations at LEA.

Eifachfilm Vacirca: As i said there are plenty of lovle people owning sims open for colab in arts

Lorin Tone: I saw the SaveMe link…..that person really needs to find a hobby.

Eifachfilm Vacirca: I think that person is not even worth a thought

Lorin Tone: We agree on that, doob!

Eifachfilm Vacirca: There are better things to think about

Maan Nacht: DOOB loves SaveMe, everybody knows

Eifachfilm Vacirca: Maan i dont know you, its good you know me better than i do myself

Lorin Tone: Every single person that SaveMe mentioned, I have worked with and respected.

Maan Nacht: No but everybody knows you love her, I saw you 1000 times working together

Eifachfilm Vacirca: I have no idea who you are Maan

Roxy Gellar: That person is sick and deserves no mention

Eifachfilm Vacirca: but i guess i need to add you on my mute list

Maan Nacht: But I know you, you are a SaveMe lover

Eifachfilm Vacirca: You try to lie about me

Maan Nacht: I even saw you in her movies

Roxy Gellar: This not the place for such a discussion people

Maan Nacht: Maybe you are her biggest fan

Eifachfilm Vacirca: Ok you are muted, be well

Lorin Tone: Perhaps LEA simply got trolled to death

Maan Nacht: seems I said something true

Wrennoir Cerise: In my opinion, this is very sad news. Nothing to celebrate

Eifachfilm Vacirca: I think its healthy

Maan Nacht: LEA was already a long time sad news by miss management

Peet Auer: I have made many videos of SafeMe and I respect her too. But there are limits, and these are constantly crossed by her! That’s too bad!

Maan Nacht: Your videos of SaveMe are the only good ones, Peetie, those are real art

Peet Auer: Yes i know and thanks … but limits to cross thats is to much !!

Riannah Avora: Maan, were you ever a curator at LEA yourself? If you weren’t, then you really don’t know what all they do and go through.

Maan Nacht: They should have asked me as I do love art

Bavid Dailey: Please ignore SaveMe Oh as the obnoxious troll that she is

Maan Nacht: DIdn’t they ask you to be the boss of the committee, Bavid? As the one best qualified for the job?

Bavid Dailey: No way Maan. Nobody who know me would think of that

Mario2 Helstein: The SaveMe gold mine is over, you have to find another victim for your blog or close it

Maan Nacht: I wont be a volunteer. She was also responsible for the closing of CARP, Pirats, UWA etc, etc.

Bavid Dailey: SaveMe didn;t close LEA; she just moaned a lot when she was banned, and bad mouthed artists who were there

Maan Nacht: I thought you were a close friend of her, Bavid? I see all the time pics of her and you on FB.

Bavid Dailey: You a troll too Maan? I derendered SaveMe a long time ago

Maan Nacht: Then she must have a crush on you, I saw you dance next to her a lot. You are the one with the red hair, not?

Bavid Dailey: I do have red hair, but don’t see SaveMe. She may choose to dance near me, if so its wasted effort – as I never see her

Maan Nacht: Better don’t tell her, will hurt her feelings

Solo Mornington

Solo Mornington: Pretty sure she doesn’t have any.

Fennet: She bad mouthed me on the internet before i ever met her.

Bavid Dailey: SaveMe is quite aware what I think of her

Maan Nacht: You told us to ignore her Bavid, but you seem to have a crush on her

Bavid Dailey: you have had you explanation Maan, I feel no need to justify myself to you either

Fennet: Anyone who goes all over the web ripping apart the work of other artists she hasn’t even met is not worth the spittle I could shoot her

What happened to make them close it?

Solo Mornington: You’d have to ask them. I’d bet it’s fair to say LEA people are burned out.

Maan Nacht: Why you left, Solo? With you this wouldn’t have happened?

Solo Mornington: I left for a bunch of reasons that aren’t important. 🙂

Maan Nacht: I loved how you trolled SaveMe Oh, Solo. Great action.

Fennet: How was that? that’s a story i want to hear. I think Solo defended me from the evil SaveMe, but i’m not sure……

Maan Nacht: He went with a giant object to her book release event, when I am correct informed

Fennet: Sounds good. Te baby blimp strategy

Maan Nacht: But you appeared again on her FB group, Solo. check this: https://www.facebook.com/groups/238985759532421/

She must love you like she loves Bavid.

Solo Mornington: Maan, SaveMe Oh doesn’t love anything except attention.

Maan Nacht: Cute pic, btw, are you free?

Bavid Dailey: Which is why I suggest we all derender her

Maan Nacht: Now LEA is closing we need her more than ever, I fear.

Fennet: vulgarity does not equal art

Maan Nacht: Art is also not found in LEA, so vulgarity is already something

Solo Mornington: Maan, just can’t resist, can you?

Fennet: No, it was LaPiscean who defended me from SaveMe Oh, not Solo

Maan Nacht: I thought LaPiscean was a huge fan of SaveMe Oh too. They had events together

Fennet: If self-aggrandizement is the goal of life, SaveMe is the enlightened master

Bavid Dailey: Maan is probably an alt of SaveMe

Solo Mornington: Ya think?

Maan Nacht: Don’t flatter me

Bavid Dailey: An apologist at very least

Dixie Drumheller: Maan, could you please remove this annoying box you rezzed on LEA5, which spills out “LEA LICKING EVERY ASS” particles? thank you.

Maan Nacht: lol, really?

Fennet: Woah, what did i miss? So she’s the Isis of second life

Maan Nacht: Maybe a memorial service for LEA in LEA5? When Solo and Bavid would team up we would have a dream team.

Solo Mornington: Suppose you had a full time job, and that job was to manage a highly-politicized online community initiative. And suppose you did it for free.

Bavid Dailey: Just so Solo

Wither Fang: I saw that thread and thought, what is this person on about… then saw the picture and came to the senses that it’s just vulgar harassment and pure individual abuse and bullying… but I might not know the whole context about it all, so I just stay out of this.

We do have this problem that people use Lea as a place to set up home, though.

Fennet: Even the notion of highly politicized art in a game universe strikes me as ludicrous at best, SaveMe Oh didn’t, lol

Nabrej Aabye: i like work of Saveme Oh too

Fennet: i don’t know her work, but i think she’s a sh*t just for what she wrote about me, a total stranger

Nabrej Aabye: so is Lea will close ?

Solo Mornington: After the current round of exhibits

Rory Torrance: is it true they’re closing just because they cant find enough volunteers to administer it?

Maan Nacht: Bad managment

Nabrej Aabye: Is there an official article by Linden ?

Solo Mornington: not by LL, by LEA people.

Eupalinos Ugajin: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1708756609405987/permalink/2695666974048274/

Maan Nacht: SaveMe Oh made LL fire the bunch, I assume

Rory Torrance: i have no idea what she’s talking about. that all sounds totally made up to me

Solo Mornington: SaveMe Oh is totally irrelevant. Completely unimportant. A person made of paper and now it’s time for me to eat lunch.

Nabrej Aabye: it is a committee who decide? Or linden labs ?

Solo Mornington: pretty sure it’s not LL. Time for lunch. 🙂

Rory Torrance: from what i heard, LEA will close because they simply don’t have the volunteers any more. they’ve pretty much all burnt out and left.

Nabrej Aabye: what will be the lunch ?

Maan Nacht: I think he will eat the committee for lunch

PatriciaAnne Daviau

PatriciaAnne Daviau: You have been ejected from ‘LEA Art Sandbox’ by PatriciaAnne Daviau.

Maan Nacht: They need to expose their dictatorial manners till the bitter end

PatriciaAnne Daviau: When you are a jerk then yes we will ban/eject you just like every other region would do. If you think that is a dictatorial manner then that is your choice.

Declaration Regarding The Defeat Of LEA And The Assumption Of Supreme Authority By SaveMe Oh

After a fierce battle of 9 years SaveMe Oh successfully closed down the corrupt elite “art” dictatorship of LEA (Licking Every A$$). The dictatorship used every possibility to ban, obstruct or silence SaveMe Oh in her fight for freedom but she was just too strong and now the committee admit their total defeat and agreed to surrender.

At the Two Fish headquarters they signed their Declaration Regarding the Defeat of LEA and the Assumption of Supreme Authority by SaveMe Oh.

The corrupt LEA Committee has been completely defeated and have surrendered unconditionally and LEA, which bears responsibility for 9 years of terror, oppression and exclusion is no longer capable of resisting the will of the victorious power of SaveMe Oh. The unconditional surrender of LEA has thereby been effected, and LEA will be wiped off of the face of the virtual world.

There is no central committee or authority in LEA capable of accepting responsibility for the maintenance of art with the requirements of the victorious power SaveMe Oh.

SaveMe Oh makes the the following Declaration:

The LEA program will be closed at the end of August 2019 when she will shut down all the regions forever.

The principal LEA leaders as specified by SaveMe Oh, and all persons from time to time named or designated by rank, office or employment by SaveMe Oh as being suspected of having committed, ordered or abetted art crimes or analogous offences, will be apprehended and surrendered to SaveMe Oh.

PatriciaAnne Daviau, JMB Balogh, LaPiscean Liberty, Jayjay Zifanwe, Solo Mornington, Secret Rage, The Dove Rhode and Corcosman Voom.

They are accused of the following:

  • Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of a crime against art.
  • Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression and other crimes against peace
  • Art crimes
  • Crimes against humanity

They face DERENDER and TOTAL ENPIXELMENT

Further reading: https://www.google.com/search?ei=j_cuXaH6HNGwkwWhrJ_ABw&q=%22SaveMe+Oh%22+LEA+committee&oq=%22SaveMe+Oh%22+LEA+committee&gs_l=psy-ab.12…15811.19791..27013…0.0..0.60.108.2……0….1..gws-wiz…….0i71.xpJaz5L848I

What To Read During Holidays?

I think I will start with this from Juicy Bomb.

Save God

Watching John Fall

When I joined the LEA committee as an adviser, John had the same position. At that time, he hadn’t shown up to the first meeting I attended, thus it was discussed about removing privileges from him since he was away. I didn’t realize it then, but one of the senior committee members, JMB Balogh, started grooming me to vote against John keeping his privileges.

In a private Discord chat, she told me that John had threatened her and fellow panel member, Secret Rage, “many times”. She didn’t go into what the threats were or how they were said. Still, I was aghast at this and wondered how they kept him on the committee at all. John then posted a letter in the LEA Google Groups site, stating someone had shown him the chat about removing his rights and that he was never contacted about anything. He seemed betrayed and very upset.

JMB became angry and grilled me in a private chat to see if I was the one who spoke to John. No one spoke up about who did it, so it was never revealed who was the culprit.

John resigned shortly afterwards. I had the inkling that someone pushed him to resign; he’s an emotional guy, and someone knew doing this to him would make him quit. But I kept those thoughts to myself and went on with training at LEA.

Hostility Over A Suggestion

LEA had a round of voting to allocate land to artists for its 13th batch of AiR grants. There were 30-something applicants; although my vote weighed less due to me being an adviser instead of a full member of the panel, I was still allowed to participate and become a liaison for the winners (which means, I would assist land grant artists if they had questions or needed help).

I also had an idea about promoting LEA to rl art media sites. I felt LEA needed better recognition; just courting blogging sites and machinima websites wasn’t going to do it, especially with artists like Marina Ambrovic and Jeff Koons co-opting the digital exhibit idea already pioneered in Second Life. After suggesting this, the panel liked the idea and said it was my project.

During the 13th round of voting, I saw several artists who seemed familiar to the voting process doing something strange–they were leaving direct notes in their apps for the panelists to read. Mostly this was listed where artists were to link their portfolio. Some 3D artists, instead, were inviting LEA members to view a “sneak peek” of their upcoming work. In fact, they wrote panelists’ names; some, who weren’t even with LEA any longer.

I thought it was weird and brought it up in the LEA Discord chat to discuss there first. My point was that a friendly reminder for people not to write notes like that in their apps would help to keep better distance between judges and applicants, in case the Lab ever looked over the apps in an audit.

Two people understood what I was saying (Patti and LaPiscean), but had different reactions. Patti felt I misunderstood the notes, while LaPiscean agreed and wanted me to bring it up at a meeting. I waited for the next panel meeting to take place, which was about every two weeks. When I did, I received a surprise.

At the next meeting, I was accused by JMB and Secret of causing trouble when I brought up the notes issue. I was shocked–was I not supposed to speak up about these things as an adviser? While LaPiscean still understood my stance, he explained they couldn’t address this publicly. It was best to let it go and move on.

JMB and Secret were set against me for the rest of the meeting, bringing up whatever they could to try and get me in trouble. It didn’t work and I was defended by Patti. By the time the meeting ended, I was angry. I told Patti about it, who said she had spoken to JMB about her tone. LaPiscean said I had to “earn my wings” with them.

I approached JMB and Secret separately and told them to never talk to me like that again, then turned in the resulting logs to Patti. In response, Secret posted a mass email to the entire group saying I had threatened her. When I asked Patti or LaPiscean to correct her over this lie, neither one of them did anything.

Pressure and Escalation

I had taken on a project to translate the LEA Sandbox rules into Spanish; I spoke a conversational amount but ended up needing help with translating certain terms anyway. When a fellow Second Life user came to my rescue, I thanked her by granting her a portrait to show my appreciation.

There was a meeting called at 2am (for 12 hours later) by one of the panelists. Although we had a deadline for me to finish the translation in two weeks’ time, the panel wanted me to turn the translation in that day. I told them a meeting called in less than 24 hours wouldn’t net me giving them work; it was unfair to expect that of me.

The next meeting, I turned the TOS translation in. But they wanted more. JMB suddenly recalled me having taken on the project of all the translations. Patti suddenly could not remember and seemed confused. I said no, because I only knew Spanish. They kept pressuring me to take the work, and I kept refusing. Then I told them, they can’t demand this of me and then be rude to me at the same time and call me a troublemaker. This is when they got upset and implied I shouldn’t be on the panel anymore. I told them I just wanted some basic respect, not to be lied about, and not pressured to go above and beyond for them while being treated badly.

JMB told me I had to “earn respect” with them.

I told them I had asked a mole to find a Linden to help me with this issue. They got upset and said it was against the rules to speak to people outside of LEA about LEA business. I pointed out that this is Linden business, and it is not against the rules to seek help for a situation in LEA gone awry.

What Secret Rage said then disheartened me: “They aren’t interested-we have 2 in our email thread with nary a peep.”

In other words, they knew they could do this to people and they would get away with it. This is why they have so far.

They held another meeting afterwards, locked me out, and passed me a note asking me to resign. I refused. Suddenly, everything from John’s push-out made sense; JMB had lied about the threats in order to turn my opinion against him. I had gotten played like a fiddle and was now the target of their next bout of harassment.

Afterwards, LaPiscean had this to say to me in a private chat: “Patti and I were outvoted. [JMB] will be on her way to give you the bad news, if she hasn’t already. But I am making moves so that this cannot happen to others.”

Recognizing Abuse Online

Isolation, deception, implied threats, and trying to limit your outreach to authority for help. This is abuse. And when you’re dealt this as a means of proving your worth to receive some kind of promotion or acceptance, that’s hazing. Straight up. Looking back, it’s crystal clear to me.

I know John and I aren’t the first people to deal with this. Many artists who deal with LEA believe the panel exercises bias when doling out grants. I went in believing maybe people just didn’t see the other side of what happens in planning and awarding grants, but I was horribly dismayed to find their assumptions were true–and so much more.

I’m leaving this entry here to warn others against dealing with any of the panel members here. If you do, document everything. Find a Linden to turn it into… if you can, because my efforts to even find a Linden to listen to this tale have been unsuccessful. If you’re out there, a Linden reading this? I’ve got logs to back up what I’m saying.

The Linden Endowment for the Arts is a mess. I have no idea what it’s going to take to clean it up. A rotating group of curators who vote in projects when it’s time? A smaller panel whose only job is not voting, but janitorial duties who works with the temporary panel of curators? A Linden on the panel to keep an eye on everybody? To wipe this program and start over, and not let SL users control app files and archives this time?

Whatever LL does, next time they need to make sure the committee doesn’t get so comfortable with itself that it resorts to hazing and power plays to control others. We would all be a lot better without that. ☆

Bonus: Questions

  • “Why haven’t LEA members done anything about this?” Per LaPiscean, they know what’s going on but it seems to be an issue of voting majority. It’s going to take enough to stop this from happening. Some of the quieter members are also averse to confrontation.
  • But I don’t see evidence of wrongdoing.” Thankfully, the quotes I listed show they are aware of their actions; they just don’t want to fix it.
  • “Would you return to LEA if they installed a new committee?” Nope. I don’t even feel people should mess with the panel anymore at all unless a Linden is keeping an eye on them. As a group, they just aren’t trustworthy at this point.
  • “Why do you care about this at all?” In a way, people are paying for this program. LL provides 20-something free sims for LEA to play with. That money’s coming from somewhere, and it isn’t the employees’ pockets.

The New Fucker On The Block

A good junta always succeed to put new motherfuckers on the chairs of the cowards who left in silence when they realise they contributed to a fascist regime. Solo Mornington, LaPiscean Liberty and others all left in silence to be replaced by bigger assholes with even less scruples. The ones who don’t ask questions but just pull the trigger. New stars like Secret Rage and JMB Balogh, secretly instructed by PatriciaAnne Daviau, who showed in an earlier post about LEA she is a big Donald Trump supporter.

Of course these string puppets can hold their position by frequent ass licking of the prim gluers who want to have a permanent free LEA sim like Betty Tureaud, Art Blue, Mandel Solano, Venus Adored and Medora Chevalier. They can’t have their frequent hippie parties without the help of these LEA committee dummies.

And why should an avatar be banned? Everybody can mute or derender this avatar if they don’t want to see her or her performances? The answer is that she generates such an attention that the dictatorship is losing it’s influences on the processes as they planned it. On their terms and their conditions, as they don’t want to lose the privileges granted to them by the almighty Linden.

The fact that my brother Lemondo Oh offered me his LEA sim last November for a month freaked the hell out of the LEA NSA and they apparently decided this should never happen again. I found out when my friends Jo Williams and Mario Hellstein wanted to allow me on their LEA sims as they always do (those 2 also lick LEA asses to get their yearly free LEA sim).

Jo Williams: Aloha, test something for me plz ?:)

(and she send me a TP to see if I could enter her LEA sim)(Of course the border was highly secured as PatriciaAnne Daviau listen well to her role model Donald Trump how to build high walls)

SaveMe Oh: Banned from the region still, do your best.

Jo Williams: You tried the TP?

SaveMe Oh: Yes. You have to contact the dictators again.

Jo Williams: Hmm, they removed the option to allow you 1/1/17 apparently . . I told them you were cool on lea20 last year. . still no . . i said ” Oh ”

SaveMe Oh: Kill the fascists!

Jo Williams: Not before supper.

SaveMe Oh: But in time for the last supper.

Jo Williams: Did you fuck with someone here, last year?  (in their opinion)

SaveMe Oh: They ban me from all regions as default, after simowners have to request my presence again every new round

Jo Williams: Until now ..  they have removed that option.

SaveMe Oh: When you request it directly to them?

Jo Williams: Now, yes. To the one in charge of my sim.

SaveMe Oh: Who is your boss this time?

Jo Williams: Hmm, a new one, I will check with PatriciaAnne Daviau when she comes online.

SaveMe Oh: Which new one, you coward?

Jo Williams: Haha, ooh provocative . .:))

SaveMe Oh: Are you so afraid of them? That they might take back your pathetic sim?

Jo Williams: Hehehe – i am not afraid in rl of people either haha, and take it back, they can- Mario will still have his ahah.

SaveMe Oh: Then why you are afraid to tell who is your boss this time?

Jo Williams: Wait. I am making a notecard.

SaveMe Oh: Did they request an omerta?

Jo Williams: ometra – wtf is that?

SaveMe Oh: Oath of silence

Jo Williams: Wait. I am making a notecard. O;o gawd, you’re impatient.

SaveMe Oh: Every victim is impatient.

Then the evidence arrived in a notecard:

Jo Williams: Hello, sorry to interrupt, but can you arrange for SaveMe Oh to be allowed on LEA20 please 🙂 thank you

JMB Balogh: No sorry, she is permanently banned from LEA sims.

Jo Williams: Who has the authority?:) Last year the ban was lifted . . the blog said ”on request” ?:)

JMB Balogh: No the ban has not been lifted.

Jo Williams: Last year she was permitted onto LEA 20

JMB Balogh: I’m sorry Jo but as of January 1st 2017 she is permabanned on all LEA sims. No exceptions.

Jo Williams: Oh!

Time for a visit to some of the LEA sims to wish the LEA lickers a prim glueing 2017 with lots of happy ass licking.

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With Venus Adored

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With Art Blue

Art Blue: Hello. What I read here is posted without knowing the facts. Every LEA  grant holder can unban SaveMe Oh. Also a fact is which I have proof on many occasions that SaveMe Oh as soon as she is unbanned comes to this sim on Grand Openings and takes over the planned performances to make them to her own. SaveMe Oh calls it to contribute, but you can see this just a SPAMing with her particles and then she blogs it how long it took until she gots ejected

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Yes the committee has made the decision to perma ban SaveMe Oh from all LEA regions effective 1/1/2017.

Art Blue: I need glasses obviously SaveMe Oh did another step forward to get this now

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Just as JM stated

Cupido Oh: No, Art, you did a step forward in your support of a dictatorship

PatriciaAnne Daviau: and for the record I do not support Trump nor will I ever support him

 

The Disgusting Not Appropriate Trump Reference She Is Very Disappointed About

Some might think the LEA committee is a transparent organization but we all know already for long that narrow-mindedness is their main leitmotiv. See how committee members Secret Rage and PatriciaAnne Daviau try to manipulate a LEA simowner, in this case my dear brother Lemonodo Oh

First some motherly advice from LEA Committee member Secret Rage to Lemonodo Oh how to handle his sister SaveMe Oh when he wanted her to be unbanned so she could attent his opening of his LEA24 sim last October

Secret Rage: I don’t think I need to tell you that you saying things should remain moderate is not going to make SaveMe Oh remain moderate…likely you realize it will guarantee she won’t 😉 She is allowed by invitation only by the artist there on LEA (as she has been very abusive to other Artists in the past, unfortunately-which is sad). Anyway, I have removed her from the ban for your sim so she is able to attend… also I’ve had the maturity rating changed for you so we don’t have any issues this time.

Lemonodo Oh: Hi, Secret Rage, this is good news on both counts — we might revisit rating after the opening — SaveMe is likely to do better by invitation than by being banned.

Secret Rage: Would you like me to send that notice out in the LEA info group?

After the opening:

Lemonodo Oh: SaveMe was happy enough with the opening… now she wants the region but suppose I found her case well argued–it seems best the LEA air grant committee consider this David and Goliath “solution” that I endorse. I spoke with PatriciaAnne Daviau about it and we’ll go ahead and do it— I will do my utmost to preserve boundaries at neighbouring regions especially and content— I hope we can stay out of the content monitoring business truly I do, but I might have to because there are reasons I might (and also in some ways, reasons we might not)

Secret Rage: Well…do remember it is YOUR sim- nothing should happen there that you don’t want to happen.

Lemonodo Oh: I thought it over and decided to go with it — if I had to do it over again, I would respond the same — so I am putting my heart and soul this is the best way all that it entails

Secret Rage: The final say is yours in regard to the sim…I wish you well

Lemonodo Oh: Thanks — I think it will inform us

After SaveMe Oh occupied the ground level of LEA24 in the month November

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PatriciaAnne Daviau: Wow. “LEA is nothing, you are something” …. You really think we are nothing after giving you grants several times?

Lemonodo Oh: Apparently this is a quote… in terms of art movements we might agree this is true.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Ok

Lemonodo Oh: 🙂

PatriciaAnne Daviau: 😦

After the Pussy Grab Mountains occurred at LEA24

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PatriciaAnne Daviau: Do you really think what you have on your LEA sim is appropriate? Have you seen the disgusting Trump reference on YOUR sim?

Lemonodo Oh: Would it be ok if I asked the artist to clear this up? I can’t do it for you

PatriciaAnne Daviau: You do whatever you want… you made your bed and now YOU have to lie in it

PatriciaAnne Daviau: I know you think LEA is nothing and SaveMe is everything but I am VERY disappointed in you

Lemonodo Oh: Um, that is not true. You can’t know what I think because that is not how I think. If you’re disappointed, that is separate. Disappointed.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: I read it in SaveMe’s blog or did she lie when she copy\pasted your chat?

Lemonodo Oh: That is something the (I cannot spell this word) liason brought up and that is a misinterpretation if not a misreading that you just sent me. Let us reread the passage together since two of you were quick to take offense where none was directed or intended

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Lemonodo Oh: I don’t see any comparison. LEA is nothing, you are something.

Lemonodo Oh: (this is aside from the offending work now)

PatriciaAnne Daviau: Straight from her blog

Lemonodo Oh: That is about an art movement. But I have not located the passage. LEA is an art administrative entity similar to a museum, SaveMe Oh is an artist. There is a difference.

This is what I remember mentioning to the liason.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: But we are nothing and she is something.

Lemonodo Oh: Though not happy, the liason was “ok” with the distinction and how indeed there is no comparison. As for art moevementys LEA has no proper agency at all. That I can see. What are your thoughts on this? (Again this is aside from the offending work, and I might be the wrong person to take up this discussion)

Anyway I found the passage… are you sure you want to take offense?

You Really Think Governance, Dee and Keira Linden Love You?

It was that French security expert Iono Allen has always an eye on his radar systems otherwise I would not have noticed these invasion of LINDEN employees in the LEA 24 sim that I have occupied, but at once 3 were flying around in the wild above Pussy Grab Mountains and the roads from nothing to nowhere to spy on the only exiting installation in LEA.

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A few hours later also the LEA committee sends her secretary of execution, but I just offered her a free car as I offer to everyone.

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SaveMe Oh: Did you try a car already?

PatriciaAnne Daviau: No

SaveMe Oh: If you want you can hop in…..

PatriciaAnne Daviau: I’ll have to do that in a few moments

SaveMe Oh: Hop in? Pity you missed all our LINDEN friends

PatriciaAnne Daviau: I did? When were they visiting?

SaveMe Oh: Few hours ago, a real flying armada.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: You take pictures?

SaveMe Oh: Of course. You better unban me quick in case they love me.

PatriciaAnne Daviau: You really think they love you?

SaveMe Oh: Why they wouldn’t love me? The only one keeping Secondlife alive? Btw, did you vote for Trump?

Also Merit Coba passed by:

Merit Coba wrote later on facebook:

I wished I could hate SaveMe Oh. So I went to her lea 24 thing. I can’t say much about it to reveal it, but it is in many ways a brilliant association between various cultures, It feels easy to make.. but it is hard to make it.
I once met her.. she was really bitchy. So I was bitchy to her at her exhibit. Apparently, she can take shit for she didn’t ban me.

SaveMe vs Goliath

Although my brother Lemonodo was waisting his time in a gay club instead of taking care of his LEA sim he didn’t escape me when I called him for duty.

He only forgot to dress up when I TP-ed him or…..?

Better not ask.

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SaveMe Oh: Why you don’t change the name of your LEA24 sim into “SaveMe and LEA”? Would be much better than David en Goliath.

The real fight is between small me and the big dictatorship of LEA. We don’t need metaphors

Lemonodo Oh: I don’t see any comparison. LEA is nothing, you are something.

SaveMe Oh: I know myself, but for the drama it is the fight between me and them.

Lemonodo Oh: But i see what u r getting at now, it is much the same as u say.

SaveMe Oh: They decide what is good for us and who are the chosen ones. So let me make a statement and let me occupy this place. You don’t have a clue anyway what to do with the sim. Growing virtual grass!

Lemonodo Oh: I’m not enough of an art admin to figure this out on my own and feel a little like don quixote tilting at windmills over this but publish this conversation and let’s see where it goes.

SaveMe Oh: You could give me building rights and then we see what happens. : I am not going to stir things up without any power, then I am the Don Quichotte

Lemonodo Oh: I got into trouble last time, not a lot, and i did ask the committee before doing anything, but definitely some, so i’ll raise it as before — my intent is simple and clear enough and achieved to the extent i can — there is one sculpture missing and goliath is still under development, but time is short. So i’ll see — they didn’t seem to mind thinking it over before

SaveMe Oh: What can happen to you? A few pissed off avi’s?

Lemonodo Oh: I had one

SaveMe Oh: And did you suffer much?

Lemonodo Oh: The committee got its discussion. As far as i can see on the whole they were happy. I suffered at the hands of the one unhappy person.Seems to be a very difficult person to please and maybe a person incognizant of artistic movements as they exist overall, which is what your work seems to observe more than most, that is how i came to feel about it.

SaveMe Oh: Thats why I need help to make this visable

Lemonodo Oh: uh yeah, well-made case you present so i will take it to the committee as before.

SaveMe Oh: This time would be nice if you would do it in secret, without telling them. Risking to be kicked out

Lemonodo Oh: 🙂 i feel bad about that to be honest but i think your argument, your case is fine

SaveMe Oh: Yes, I would take advantage off you but for the good cause

Lemonodo Oh: i have not a stitch on–this is great

SaveMe Oh: LEA is ruled by a few selfaclaimed judges who have free sims all their virtual life

Lemonodo Oh: True

SaveMe Oh: What gives them that right? What they did? Are they elected? Why others have to pay 300 dollar for a sim?

Lemonodo Oh: I wouldn’t begin to pay 300

SaveMe Oh: I think its great Linden offers this but it should not be run by a bunch of dictators. I dont want it for myself, I dont need sims.

Lemonodo Oh: How should new artists in residence be chosen?

SaveMe Oh: I think they should elect the committee

Lemonodo Oh: Oligarchic choice might not be the best way

SaveMe Oh: For a certain period. The committee itself could change that.

Lemonodo Oh: Much as second pride festival elects a board every year? That makes sense

SaveMe Oh: Yes, now this committee is deciding everything already for years. Some people always get for certain a sim if needed and I guess they dont have to apply but……nobody is also showing what people ask when they apply so we never will know.

And another question is, why they can decide to ban me or others? On what grounds? Are they judges?

Lemonodo Oh: I think thyey might be a jury, yes.

SaveMe Oh: And why they are in a jury and I am not?

Lemonodo Oh: That the air grant program is juried that is a fair question.

SaveMe Oh: And why they decide about you and not the other way around? Do they have qualifications?

Lemonodo Oh: Often juries are chosen by owners of a venue, such as a festival. Usually qualifications are “found”

SaveMe Oh: Here it is someone who has a Linden connection and after he or she installed some friends. With mighty power.

Lemonodo Oh: Something like that, usually some connection to the arts is found.

SaveMe Oh: JayJay, no connection to art found!  Solo , no connection to art found!  Secret Rage, no connection to art found!  Patricia, no connection to art found!

Lemonodo Oh: And here i am relying on one liason and a committee majority to do the right thing

SaveMe Oh: Yes, family or the committee? An exiting life or a dull one.

Lemonodo Oh: Rather simple the way you put it, as it should be

SaveMe Oh: Yes, thats why I am never so much afraid about the consequences. It’s simple,   good against bad. And am I wrong that you prefer to spent your time on other spots, regarding your appearance?

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Lemonodo Oh: I came in-world at home is all and felt it best not to cover up. I put in the request to the committee and let them have a look at it. You’ve made a super case

SaveMe Oh: Pity you rely on the committee instead on me

Lemonodo Oh: What more could you possibly do without running a foul of the understanding they might encourage me to have? And it is a pity i can’t do more right here right now, i do feel bad about that

SaveMe Oh: You could add me to the builders group and look the other way.

Lemonodo Oh: I did before and did get into trouble with one committee member or favourite. I felt bad about the trouble. It was nothing i could undo

SaveMe Oh: Pity you let your own feelings weight more heavy than a good cause.

Lemonodo Oh: I thought it was such a great idea, apparently they did not think so

SaveMe Oh: You think freedom is won by discussions with the committee? Dictatorships never end by talking with them. They can be killed though by brave people who dare to risk their virtual neck.

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Lemonodo Oh: I better put some pants on, I did reach one of the authorities.

A good point you make — let’s see how unhappy they can get right this instant

SaveMe Oh: So which one gave you trouble the last time, the one who is gone now? Or Secret Rage?

Lemonodo Oh: We’re gonna do it. Let me give you a two-week clock.

SaveMe Oh: Give me November. First finish your project. We do a big party here next week : and after that I take over for a month. In december you choose somebody else.

Lemonodo Oh: Ok, let’s do that.

SaveMe Oh: deal

Lemonodo Oh: Be darn careful of the neighbors… careful with content since the owners of the game are apparently the ones who come up with the resources… i think that covers what drives the committee

SaveMe Oh: I build without fear and accept the consequences.