A live report from our special reporter Nabrej Aabye:
Yesterday I went to All4Art event inauguration and I saw SaveMe standing in a coloured box, something as gallery, i recognize her art and I said to myself, this is good, SaveMe exhibit here. But I saw also SaveMe stand as an artist stand to welcome visitors and that was weird, it is not current attitude of SaveMe
Nabrej Aabye: Hello SaveMe, is this the Van Gogh room revisited?
SaveMe Oh: You are blonde. This is Lichtenstein!
Nabrej Aabye: Sorry I didn’t know”
In my mind : “omg, what is mean Lichtenstein ? What is that ? It is a little country in Europe, but I don’t see the link with the installation of SaveMe Oh.
And finally, i am not blonde, I remembered also there is in pop art, an artist with same name, i must google on him”
Allways in my mind : “waow ! these lions and cats, how she did that ? And at same time, she sit. I think she wear or add them.”
So i was admiring all that and poof ! suddenly SaveMe Disappear.
Nabrej Aabye: Where are you ?
SaveMe Oh: They banned me
Nabrej Aabye: Oh Seriously ? Why they did that?
SaveMe Oh: Ask them, I have no idea. I must be a great danger
It was sooooo boring they had to hand out kick devices to have some kindergarten fun. Where? At the Rabbit Oh Expo!
Venus Adored: SaveMe hi there
SaveMe Oh: Are you allowed to do particles, Venus??? OMG. How much you had to pay them?
Ferdynand Straaf: hello SaveMe, not everything is a conspiracy or a bribe
Juliette Surrealdreaming: slips Venus a bunch of linden
Art Blue: oh SaveMe Oh is late, but as the music says, thats beyond my control
SaveMe Oh: SaveMe is never late, she is always right on time, mostly after the boring part. You already did your fart talk Art? I was hoping I had missed that. Dont tell me you are still going to babble.
Art Blue: I waited hoping you would come
Juliette Surrealdreaming: he kept asking me, when is she coming?
Art Blue: Fasten seatbelts, my art talk starts NOW.
Juliette Surrealdreaming: i keps reassuring him… soon. ok Art please share your Art Talk with us, SaveMe is here
Art Blue: Not when SaveMe Oh is here, she quotes me wrongly later
SaveMe Oh: Did my sister throw some rabbits out already?
Jia: No one will find me among all these bunnies
Melvin Starbrook: you can never have to many bunnies hihi
Josef K: I prefere playboy bunnies
Ionsilver Whitman: where is the rabbit?
Lee1 Olsen: good point Ion,the famous Rabbit!
Art Blue: I was asked in IM. You all know how to derender a person creating things, right?
Please derender Saveme Oh so you see the installation as it is meant and not her particles and textures.
SaveMe Oh: I am so glad everybody has derender me, what a relieve
Josef K: This is kind of a historic event … SaveMe Oh visuals at a Bryn Oh exhibition … never thought I would see that
Art Blue: see what?
SaveMe Oh: Without my funding Bryn wouldnt exist anymore
Ferdynand Straaf: lol Josef, and that is why I did not derender Saveme’s art, this is historic
Bryn Oh: i did like the rabbits
Josef K: People don’t know what they are missing out
SaveMe Oh: Josef, now they all know your secret. Peeping K, you better don’t take pics
Josef K: I am busy making snapshot for my facebook site
SaveMe Oh: they might kill you
Ferdynand Straaf: this will be in the history books , pplm will read 200 years after this about this
Josef K: This is front page news tomorrow, I’m gonna sell my pics to New York Times and Washington Post
Art Blue: Whatever SaveMe Oh says, today she failed, by missing my speech. It is known an event without a speech does not count as an appearance of SaveMe Oh. Only by the greatness of Bryn Oh she could stay and so she has to suffer that she cant report that she was be ejected.
SaveMe Oh: Suffer, me? when?
Art Blue: not being ejected is a meaningless appearance of SaveMe Oh. you can quote me
Betty Tureaud: SaveMe Oh love only SaveMe Oh, what a sad story
SaveMe Oh: People, dont talk so much about me, thats feeding the troll
“It is MY house, and I decide who is welcome in MY house and who is not. This is a private sim. Or would you like me to come to your RL house and start to disturb things there as you do in my virtual home?”
Sim owners use this dogma all the time to justify their decision to ban me, on the spot or preventive. But SaveMe Oh is not a real life person, she doesn’t have a real life house where you can pass by to take revenge for what she did to you virtually. SaveMe Oh is a made up character, she is like Barbie, Snow White or Jesus Christ. Invented by people. She doesn’t exist. SaveMe Oh is made up so you can believe in her, like in a story, movie or play.
When you believe in Jesus Christ you can go to church to pay tribute to the idol you have made up, when you believe in SaveMe Oh you can enjoy her virtual performances, her soap opera on her blog or her never ending fights with sim owners. But when you are a non believer you can walk in your mini-skirt through the Vatican, use Barbie as your butt plug or use your derender tools to not see SaveMe Oh or her attachments.
The real life copy and paste argument is as fake as the story provided by the storyteller and is only used by sim owners who want to disguise their powerplay as common sense, who want to have a cheap excuse for patronising arguments based on while male superiority or who want to park their morals for a moment around the corner because it’s temporary convenient.
It only took them some months to copy the same mistakes as the old LEA. The open hive of HEA is already shut down for SaveMe Oh if Ultralight wants to play there. Forgotten is the support for the artworld SaveMe gave and back are the old restrictions.
Roxy Gellar must be the happiest person on the grid tonight. Some days ago she asked me the following:
Roxy Gellar: So the Question is, Ultra is performing at Hannington this weekend, are you banned?
SaveMe Oh: The Hannington people are not your kind of dictatorial style. Be like them and open the world to every one. You still have time to become a good person.
Roxy was right. I was wrong!
SaveMe Oh: Do you know why I am banned?
Hannington Xeltentat: Oh hello SaveMe. Yes, there is a concert on by Ultraviolet, and she won’t play if you are here. I’ll lift it as soon as it is over. Nothing personal.
SaveMe Oh: Do you approve that she is able to exclude me? Secondlife give her derender tools when she dont want to see me.
Hannington Xeltentat: I’m a bit busy now for in depth discussion, but basically, old chap, it is my house, and like your RL house or my RL house, you are welcome here any time, and I mean that, except when I am doing something else.
SaveMe Oh: And when I do a performance in your house and on a certain day I dont want Tansee there, will you ban her?
Hannington Xeltentat: I consider each individual case on its merits.
SaveMe Oh: And will you kill someone when a friend asks you to?
Hannington Xeltentat: Different question, irrelevent here
SaveMe Oh: Did you consider to ask Ultralight to play in her own house if she wanted an exclusive party?
Hannington Xeltentat: No, because it’s my house, and I decided.to have her play in my house.. This is a private sim, and you are welcome any time, as I said. Except that I am doing something else tonight.
SaveMe Oh: Is Ultralight an old friend of you?
Hannington Xeltentat: I have no friends in SL, old or new. I judge each case on its merits
SaveMe Oh: And what merits you found in this “case”?
Hannington Xeltentat: I am letting Ultraviolet play her concert. It’s very good.
SaveMe Oh: And how many people were on her requested banlist? Only me?
Hannington Xeltentat: Not her banlist, mine. You can’t be trusted.not to disrupt things. You only have yourself to blame
SaveMe Oh: And when Trump would ask you to ban a Mexican. Hitler ask you to ban a jew or the KKK ask you to ban an african?
Hannington Xeltentat: Not an applicable simile, at all, and an insult by you to all the oppressed minorities. Unworthy of you
SaveMe Oh: You think oppressed minorities have to stay polite against their opressors?
SaveMe Oh: Do they have to humble accept the verdict?
Hannington Xeltentat: You know the answer to that one, but in this case you are not an oppressed minority. You are the one, on occasion, oppressing. And no, I do not humbly accept your verdict. This is SL, and reference to to Hitler et al is overindulgent and offensive. You should be better than that.
SaveMe Oh: I am much better than that, thats why you should be the one who should do better. You should refuse to ban people at any time.
Hannington Xeltentat: I should do what I wish to do, no more, no less. And I do. No-one dictates anything to me. That, in essence, is true anarchy.
SaveMe Oh: Tansee and Ultralight dictated to you. You obey. It has nothing to do with your own will.
Hannington Xeltentat: I obey only myself, SaveMe. I make decisions based on each case, considered carefully.. And they are my decisions, for my reasons. I do not answer to anyone, and there is no need for me to. Buy your own island, then you can do that too.
SaveMe Oh: I will never buy an island to sit there as a judge who is welcome and who has to stay out. I prefer to trust people.
Hannington Xeltentat: I trust the people I trust, and I don’t trust the people I don’t trust. I have my island as my space, and I give a little bit of it to people who want to do something productive and creative. no more, no less.. And as I said, you are welcome any time, unless I am doing something else.
SaveMe Oh: It’s difficult to try to make something wrong look like right, isn’t it?
Bohemio Love: Hello SaveMe. I want to send you my really thanks for to be so nice the last night. Not only for your show, for your respect and friendly ways. No doubt, you love to hippies also. LoL.. I have more projects…..i can offer you a new public, anyone knows you. You will have not haters or things like this….you can express your art under yours artistic requirements, but under my event requirements. Think about it…..it can be the SaveMe Oh rebirth. We will laugh to Fénix 😉 Hugs&Peace
SaveMe Oh: I can perform wherever I want, I don’t mind haters at all as I love drama and everyone already knows me, I dont need a rebirth as I am not dead. I only work on my own requirements. When they fit with yours you are a lucky guy, just let me know when there happen something and I will decide if you are worth my visit or not.
SaveMe Oh: You know me, I am the sunshine in the house
Ultralight Alter: Sunshine can make colours fade
SaveMe Oh: The white light is lovely too
Ultralight Alter: It is
SaveMe Oh: Ultra, I came up with a great idea, I know you always want to prevent me from being close to you…
Ultralight Alter: What would that be
SaveMe Oh: So I set up a performance room on top of here
Tansee whispers: ahem, ahem
SaveMe Oh: so you can choose to perform downstairs without me bothering you. You can also choose to perform upstairs were I might bother you. Free choice.
Tansee: I think it can be a good compromise for us all
SaveMe Oh: For you, for me, for the audience. I am not the enemy but if you want to see me like that its up to you. And the advice of derender can always be given to everybody. Its just like a tv, you switch to the channel you like
Tansee: I think it is a good way to work together,,, as that is the theme here at the hive. And you know my mantra,,,,”play nice”
SaveMe Oh: And derender hippie talk is also an option!
Tansee: Save me SaveMe
SaveMe Oh: Always
Tansee: Why dont you go up and test
SaveMe Oh: we tested yesterday honey, it works
Tansee: So Hann knows what we are talking about and Ultra, ok, then you all have to trust me on this.
Ultralight Alter: I am sure SaveMe is part of Extinction Rebellion
Tansee: I think it is a great comprimise
SaveMe Oh: I am
Ultralight Alter: of course
SaveMe Oh: I suggested all methods to them, btw, this swan is not a real one, before you start to send a complaint
Tansee: Are we all ok with this collaboration of sorts ?
SaveMe Oh: To make this work I have a one time offer, when Ultra don’t want me here the first time I wont come. Its up to her, so Ultra, you decide
Ultralight Alter: You do what you want SaveMe
SaveMe Oh: But you may also join me upstairs
Tansee: I would like Ultra down here, that was the plan
SaveMe Oh: yes, but everybody is free insn’t it?
Tansee: If she wants to, everyone is free
SaveMe Oh: I even might leave with Hann
Hannington Xeltentat: ㋡
SaveMe Oh: Jealous?
Hannington Xeltentat: I hardly said a word ㋡
SaveMe Oh: you don’t have to say a word honey
Tansee: I like it when you say Honey here in the hive
Design of Dynamic and Interactive Costumes for Performance Art
Thesis to obtain the Master of Design degree
Universidade de Lisboa
Master: I am also
exploring virtual worlds and real worlds and what’s different
between both worlds in performance.
SaveMe Oh: That is maybe the most important thing, because that is exactly what I’m exploring too. What is the difference between virtual life and the real life, where it connects and where it separates, and in a virtual life, people are asked to make a fantasy character, and when they do, people start to be angry when they are not really their real self. So, it’s a very nice thing to investigate, what it’s real and what is unreal.
Master: Because it’s all actually about concept… In the real world we are always performing with eachother.
SaveMe Oh: Yes. That is true and in an extreme form, I use that in Second Life, because the whole character of Save Me Oh became a concept. And of course, people started to question that concept, because they want to speak with the real person behind Save Me Oh and I also have fights and quarrels… I lost friends who were not agreeing that they didn’t know who I was. I am also losing friends there who are also friends in real life, but don’t want to speak with me in Second Life anymore.
SaveMe Oh: Yes. Those are
very interesting developments.
Master: So… in two
parallel dimensions you became two people at the same time!
SaveMe Oh: Yes, because
sometimes it gets so intense, the virtuality, that people want
reality in there. But then it starts to trouble the minds of
everybody because it’s difficult, of course, to distinguish what is
real from what is unreal, what is a real opinion from what is a role
play, when of course I am not Save Me Oh. But I play like her, and
when people start to know me, they want to know more what’s behind
Master: That reminds me of
Hussein Chalayan in a work in which he has a fashion performance with
clothes made with a certain kind of glass, and the models break each
other’s outfits, and then behind them, there is a video animation
projection reproducing the same movement they are making. So he is
kind of making this parallel comparison between what is happening in
real life and what’s our idea, concept, on things in life.
Oh: Yes. I have an exhibition coming soon in Sweden and it’s a step
farther than that, because it’s about Third Life, and it’s about
my avatar escaping from my real-life person and making herself a kind
of robot for her spirit. It’s like she is abandoning me. As a
controller, she gets free and she is going to control somebody in
third life, and there are pictures and movies about that in that
Master: So, it’s an out
of the body projection of what we are…
SaveMe Oh: In a way… I
don’t know if you are aware of the Droste effect? It was a
commercial from a chocolate powder in Holland, from the 50’s or
60’s and the package had the same image in a mirror, so you get the
same image and somebody is looking in the mirror, and then you get
the second,and the third, and the fourth reflection… so you get the
copies of the second dimension until the infinite. So that is what I
explore there. I also had this exhibition in Cerveira, in Portugal,
with a similar concept, they did an exhibition about Save Me Oh with
two movies on screens and then they had also digital pictures I had
sent them. They also made this “physical” exhibition in São
Paulo (FILE), where they show these animation movies, because that is
what this is, of course, just like when you make movies out of the
Master: I was just thinking about costumes, because performance and costumes can be related, What’s the costume’s role… because also Save Me Oh is not naked, every character needs to be dressed…
SaveMe Oh: Not always, she also has a movie where she is naked and it’s about “nothing”, it’s a song about “nothing”. She is dancing naked, in a big space of Nothing.
Master: So, is it about
SaveMe Oh: It’s about
whatever you want to see in it.
Master: But you relate
“nothing” to being “naked” ….
SaveMe Oh: It could be,
since it’s just a philosophy and you could go further and further…
we could question why you have a body or an image of a human. When we
are talking of Malevich, he will show you a black square.
Master: So, the projection
of the self seems to be important for us to create some linkage with
what we want to express?
SaveMe Oh: Yes, and it’s always like that, and of course that’s why it’s always difficult to talk about the intentions of an art work, it’s about what it’s made of and what people want to see in it. To make their own story is maybe the main reason of an art work. It doesn’t matter that much what the artist wants to tell, but what the viewers are going to think of it.
Talking about all these people entering the performance space, how
would you consider the audience, how important is the engagement
between the performer and the audience?
SaveMe Oh: It’s very important because the reason of theatre is that you try to give the audience a hand full of nothing when they know all it’s completely fake… because when you go inside the theatre, you know that you are going to watch something completely fake. You know that the garden that you see on stage is not a real garden, you know that the bed your are going to see on stage is not a real bed, and when I tell you in a play that we are going back to Portugal in 1533 and I succeed to make you believe that you are in Portugal in 1533, that is the connection you have to make with the audience. So, you have to be able to touch the imagination of the audience. And when the play is finished and they go outside they will talk about it as if they had a real experience. That is the funny part about theatre but also about literature or cinema, they enable you to dream away and get inside the story. That is the magic of all those arts.
Master: Now I am
remembering that you did a theatre play where you combined the
virtual and real worlds together. This can also help the audience to
feel that way, or not?
SaveMe Oh: It didn’t really work out like that because take yourself as an example: very enthusiastic about Second Life, but in reality, only a few people really know what it means. And that also happened in the theatre play. I used the live projections of Second Life inside the theatre play, but the audience had no idea of what was happening, because they don’t know Second Life or virtual worlds that much, so they thought they were looking at a projection, pieces of movies, they didn’t realize that it was all live.
Master: But do you think that if you had informed them, in the beginning, information on Second Life, they would have acted differently?
SaveMe Oh: Yes, they would, but then you have to ask is that the goal of a theatre maker, to educate people first, before they can understand what is happening?
Master: Perhaps in the
long run you will…
SaveMe Oh: Yes, but even if I could explain it to some people, it wouldn’t lead to a massive interest in Second Life, people would have a look and after they would disappear. And there is this kind of a hardcore group in the world that really gets into it and knows how to use it, it’s like an elite, a very small circle using it.
Master: So, let’s talk
about Saveria Borchovski. How did you come up with that?
SaveMe Oh: I didn’t come up with her at all. First I started with SaveMe Oh, Saveria is just a Facebook account number three or four, because the other ones are closed or banned by Facebook. Borchovski is the name of the last name of her wife, that’s why this time she chose that last name. But when she is kicked off by Facebook, she will need another name again. Because part of the story of Save Me Oh is that whatever internet platform kicks her out, she will always come back.
Master: So this is also
funny performance for you to do.
Oh: Yes, I have a blog with Save Me Oh for several years now with a
lot of readers, it’s like a soap opera. Because, in Second Life, she
is also a kind of art critic make fights with everybody and that’s
why she is banned and rejected all the time and she has lots of
Master: She’s a true
artist, let’s say.
SaveMe Oh: When you google SaveMe Oh you will see how many hits you get, thousands of stories. There are other researchers working on her like you, or other art critics and another thing that SaveMe Oh does is making fun of that too. In a blog of mine, there are fake reviews I made and also real ones about her.
Master: Going to the Wear to Move video with Save Me Oh, the one with various participants from Secondlife. Was there a sense of sharing the same experience among the participants?
SaveMe Oh: Yes, well, I make the avatars to line up. And it is completely ridiculous because why should you line up in a virtual world? When one is in Japan, the other one in America, and the other one in Russia… and people are in line, waiting to get a costume. I made a virtual dressing room, which is also completely stupid, because you don’t dress or undress, you just attach or detach things, so it’s funny to play with it that. And that’s why Save Me Oh is notorious, because I will take those art galleries with paintings on walls and I will make big interruptions so that you don’t see the paintings on the walls anymore, I make myself walking in the museum wearing the museum itself. But when you want to see that, you have to go inside Second Life to explore.
Master: And leave my
beloved RL Lisbon?
SaveMe Oh: Yes. The fights of Save Me Oh are always about that, because what I try to achieve in the second world is to get rid of the real life, because, again, Save Me Oh is fighting against all those people who go into Second Life and rebuild reality (like Lisbon, Amsterdam), and what I try to explain is that you don’t have to rebuild reality but make virtuality as a real new experience, so I challenge people not to wear clothes when they can wear buildings, they can wear paintings, that’s why I made that Wear to Move performance, it’s all kinds of dresses, but they are not really dresses but structures and I share also the animations along with them, so that they can all use for one dress the same animation so it becomes a dance. And then, what I do, what you have to experience when you go into Second Life, is that I create a surrounding around it, I make a big box where everybody can be dancing inside. I am also doing a new one where people are wearing the surroundings too.
Master: So, what I find
really interesting in that is the relationship between costumes and
their surroundings because you are creating a new reality, a new
Oh: Yes, and what is nice about it is that I am not only wearing the
“dresses”, but I am also wearing the theatre around it.
Master: So, you are
inhabiting, let’s say. By wearing you are inhabiting.
Oh: Yes. When I make a black or white zebra dress that they are
wearing, I also make a theatre with zebra structures moving, with the
sky being zebra, the walls being zebra. And they can wear all of
that. People in Second Life are not aware that they can wear
anything, they can wear complete simulations. But people are not
still capable of making that click in their minds, that they can do
that, to see that.
Master: That they are interpreting a new reality, so everything is possible. There are no boundaries around it.
SaveMe Oh: Yes, and what
is a fun thing about it is when I go to people who build the real
life Lisbon, for example, and I walk in Rossio and wear one of my
dresses that can cover up all Lisbon, but it is an awful thing to do
of course, because those people want everyone to see the statue of D.
Pedro and I cover it all, and I understand the reason why they kick
me out, they don’t want their image to be disturbed.
Master: Disturbed or
transformed into something else…
SaveMe Oh: I am able to
transform every environment that I want at my will.
Master: Yes, but
everything you see you transform it, because you are doing an
interpretation out of it.
SaveMe Oh:Yes, and that can be in a sense of art. But what I also do is, well, imagine the dance party, there are DJ’s and everyone can go to a space to dance, make their dolls to dance (a little bit ridiculous), so I also do DJ and wear all sorts of crazy effects, all kind of colors, transforming images, textures, turning the music parties inside Second Life into almost LSD like performances. And people are also performing, singers performing from their living rooms in live concerts in Second Life and they sometimes call Save Me Oh to create environments.
Master: Do you prefer more conventional or more conceptual shapes and materials? Or it depends?
SaveMe Oh: Of course it
depends. It depends on the concept you have, because the costumes are
not the only thing of a concept, first comes the concept and the
concept will lead you to a realistic or absurd costume, or to make
everybody walk around in wood, in stone or plastic…
Master: If you had a
completely conceptual outfit, would you need to have something
concrete in there to remind you of something realistic or you don’t
need that (so that people could understand what you are talking
SaveMe Oh: I think that everything that we do has a relation to something else, because everything has a history. And I think that the human mind works like that, it always makes connections to images seen before. So, the illusion of coming up with something completely new will never happen, everybody will relate to what they’ve seen before. Of course they can make a wrong connection…
Master: So, it means that people would create symbolism in the moment they would see different things coming up…
SaveMe Oh: I think it works a little bit like that, but the magic of a performance or a theatre play or a movie can also take away your option, because when the story of something gets stronger and you get inside the story, then you start to forget all the connections you had with this or that element…
Master: In reality we are
not that rational, we get inside the play….
SaveMe Oh: That is also why you get completely different opinions when people look at the things that you are making. One may be more sensible for the music part, another will be talking about the costumes, and the other will be talking about how intense the acting was, it’s different for everybody. The ones who are making things should follow their own impulses and not follow what others or the public wants them to do, or how they will react – because that is somehow unpredictable.
Master: Let me ask you about smart costumes. What wou’d you think if you had , let’s say, and interactive costume that would respond to the audience and the environment…imagine that you have this special fabrics that would react to temperature, peoples’ emotions, and then they’d change, for example, their shapes or their colors. Would you find this interesting?
SaveMe Oh:I find it very
interesting if it is part of the concept is ok, but the costume will
never be first or perceived alone, of course it could be like an
experiment as we did before with lights sensors or with sounds.
Master: But if people are not aware of the technological aspect and there is just fruition of the show, it would meet what you just said, because the intention would not be to show the abilities of the costume, but to make the show more enjoyable, respecting the concept.
SaveMe Oh: But then I’d really prefer to have it inside a real artwork, like a performance in a museum or something like that, because in a theatre we are not a school, we are not teaching the audience new techniques, it has to be the other way around. We have to be able to use new techniques and as soon as we are able to use them well, then we will use them to surprise an audience and not to teach an audience about new developments. If you do it in a museum, you focus on an extreme possibility of a new invention and place the new intention as central. But, in a theatre play, everything has to adapt to the concept. Whatever works there, we will use it. And in Second Life, of course, you could experiment a little bit further with that, because it’s a good playground to try those things out. I already made dresses in Second Life which are able to project complete movies (stream
movies inside Second Life,
put then on textures and everything is moving), everywhere around is
projected movies, even on the faces and the skins, walls or floors.
Master: Like a complete
SaveMe Oh: Yes, avatars are walking screens. I made one movie that is called Screen Me, a variation of Save Me, and what she is wearing is like a big cinema with projection screens with crazy of big squares, triangles, flexible walls that move with the wind…
Master: Let’s go back to the real world and imagine that you are wearing those tubes, those clothes out of “normality”, let’s say… we could talk about discomfort. If you have that kind of costume which is a tube in which you cannot move your arms, have you explored that? Do you think about discomfort in costumes, have you explored that facet already?
Oh: Yes, because the Wear to Move performance is based in what I said
before, when you search in the internet for the Oskar Schlemmer
Triadisches ballet, you see people dancing in very uncomfortable
dresses. They are really walking in tubes and cubes and doing very
mechanical movements in a very abstract way.
Master: Do you think we
can talk of discomfort as a tool?
SaveMe Oh: Yes, because while in sports or in ballet you are searching for the ultimate perfection or the possibilities of the human body, you can also go in the other direction, that is, how much I limit the movement of the body and still trigger a reaction from an audience. And if that is still related to human appearance or it relates to something else.
Master: That is, discomfort can trigger feelings in the spectator and be a catharsis from the performer? Can there be an always presence sense of renewal in the performer in a performance?
SaveMe Oh: Yes, I think in a sense, it is. It’s always a renewal, it’s always trying to get to the next boundary, to explore further, to investigate and to surprise the audiences with that. That’s also in the mind of an artist.
Master: It’s like living
a new page of life, no?
SaveMe Oh: Yes, because that’s the fun part of the arts, of course. It’s a kind of extension of your personality and the virtual life is even more crazy because you can almost stay sitting in your house behind your laptop and not moving at all and you are still able to explore a complete crazy world.